tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post7832342374742280640..comments2023-12-31T15:49:09.714-05:00Comments on Funk On Faith: A third way for Christians to engage with MuslimsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-86004966075866412672015-02-07T09:58:05.901-05:002015-02-07T09:58:05.901-05:00I am an American convert to islam that was looking...I am an American convert to islam that was looking for truth and the oneness of god that attracted me to islam. I don't have all the answers but can tell you this I have learned over the past 13 yrs..<br />There is a definate element of misogyny and manipulation of people especially thru some of the less than authentic hadiths (sayings and actions of prophet Mohammed). For politcal reasons people twist the faith for selfish gain, cut and paste for their own agenda and don't interpret the ayahs (verses) of the quran correctly for the reason god sent them down thru the angel Gabriel to prophet Mohammed. <br />For another reason as a product of 14 years Catholic schools education ( which I am very proud and grateful for) that islam says if an imam or sheikh says something that isn't true you dismiss him and don't listen to him. <br />I think that muslims will never be able to be the peaceful faith they claim to be until they join todays society and use their islamic reasoning in the world of today and not the world of 1400 years ago. The islam of the quran I read at home and the islam that is being practiced by animals who call themselves muslims have no parallels. They are masters of cut and paste and twist for my own benefit but not muslim. Sadly since muslims stick to themselves it is the animals and radicals that are presenting to the world. Until muslims speak out more loudly against what is happening in the world in the name of their religion the only voices that will be heard are the voices of murderers Preaching a message of hate and intolerance. <br />The Pandora's box of personalities of many people because of my conversion that I have met from the middle east region is a WHOLE separate topic.<br />I will just say they are a different breed of cat (the dishonest, extremely manipulative, hateful type)<br />And I thank god everyday I'm american and not them. <br />Maybe in their own country they appear more hospitable but once you penetrate the outer shell you will find ugliness. I attribute this mainly to their corrupt leaders and horrible system of life that infiltrated these people and the intolerance and just plain stupid stories they pass onto their children to brainwash them out of living in a global collabrative world of today.<br />My only hope is for the new generation who choses to educate themselves and can live in today's world and still be a peaceloving muslim with everyone else and think for themselves instead of the intolerance that was passed down to them.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-91646777065950616732015-02-07T00:52:51.478-05:002015-02-07T00:52:51.478-05:00First of all, most of the people who are posting h...First of all, most of the people who are posting here about muslims probably don't know any muslims except those from tv or newspapers. The analogy used by the President made sense because there are parallels in the developement of both religions. The reforms that happen in Christianity occurred because of reformers in the religion. Islam has not been around as long as Christianity and those people have to go through the same things as everyone else. Christians killed in the name of Christ is a fact. Muslims kill in the name of Islam is a fact. There are people working within the Islamic world to change the way things are happening over there so that these things no longer occur. And in order to understand and help there needs to be discussion.<br />And if you know that you have a bag of M&Ms that have two poisonous ones in them, just take the bad ones out and eat the rest.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15127916346230158417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-85019653515006954952015-02-06T20:53:04.695-05:002015-02-06T20:53:04.695-05:00Funny how some of these "Christians" abo...Funny how some of these "Christians" above excuse the atrocities of Crusaders and Salem Calvinists. Radical Islam are murderers and should be condemned. But they are not the Muslims being addressed to interact with here. People excusing the past atrocities of Christians don't understand the word "repent". As a Christian, I don't accept and will not ever accept the negative things that people have done in Jesus' name. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-73187119966111065112015-02-06T17:27:51.410-05:002015-02-06T17:27:51.410-05:00This is a joke, right?This is a joke, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-14959640498112876732015-02-06T16:54:16.458-05:002015-02-06T16:54:16.458-05:00Funk, just don't draw a funny little picture o...Funk, just don't draw a funny little picture of the murderous prophet. Also, don't ask the hard questions about sharia law, it would not fit the dialog you are trying to convince the uninformed of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-70757615850140475382015-02-06T16:28:18.337-05:002015-02-06T16:28:18.337-05:00Spreading western Christianity is unequivocally an...Spreading western Christianity is unequivocally and unambiguously required of all Christians by their Creator's completed Book Of Life because it is the only real divine truth in the universe. Everything else is pagan especially islam. Read up how these false religions and false prophets were predicted thousands of years ago and don't say you weren't warned. <br />Thank you Christian Crusaders and Colonialism.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-73534125328952565582015-02-06T16:01:54.750-05:002015-02-06T16:01:54.750-05:00Tim Funk here. Wanted to challenge a few commenter...Tim Funk here. Wanted to challenge a few commenters' assertions:<br /><br />Dorakin -- I think that quote is from Franklin Graham, not Billy Graham.<br /><br />And Bert, re: your comment about only Muslims guilty of expansion and conquest. Ever heard of European colonialism? It's in all the history books. Spreading Christianity was a big part of that history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-91364062189955824832015-02-06T15:49:12.783-05:002015-02-06T15:49:12.783-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-5934802351114502272015-02-06T15:19:57.595-05:002015-02-06T15:19:57.595-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-64102947090459915712015-02-06T14:44:12.653-05:002015-02-06T14:44:12.653-05:00Well Tim?
Did you imagine stirring up this kind o...Well Tim?<br /><br />Did you imagine stirring up this kind of tempest in a teapot with this article?<br /><br />I might chuckle, if some of these comments didn't frighten me quite so much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-63284750388326315302015-02-06T14:39:36.399-05:002015-02-06T14:39:36.399-05:00PartTimer
You can't hide the ol H&H, even...PartTimer<br /><br />You can't hide the ol H&H, even in a bag of M&Ms. ;-)<br /><br />Rock<br /><br />Great article Tim! True Christians will be finding ways to reach out to Muslims and build community in the face of the false prophets of ISIS, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-88514580285833063172015-02-06T14:35:51.655-05:002015-02-06T14:35:51.655-05:00Such lovely 'christians' on this forum. Sh...Such lovely 'christians' on this forum. Showing their true beliefs of hate and hypocrisy. PartTimeBibleThumpernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-41131943111777211822015-02-06T14:24:22.080-05:002015-02-06T14:24:22.080-05:00http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/6/wh-...http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/6/wh-gives-names-muslim-leaders-who-met-obama/<br /><br />Obama met with American muslim leaders in the White House for advice and got his desired pc answer.<br /><br />http://www.aol.com/article/2015/02/05/outrage-after-obama-compares-isis-to-the-crusades-national-prayer-breakfast/21139559/<br /><br />Hard to believe Obama defends sunni muslim terrorism equating ISIS to the Xian Crusades of 1000 yrs ago. Total pc garbage.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-58006980152378955542015-02-06T13:29:23.261-05:002015-02-06T13:29:23.261-05:00Mr. President and liberals like this author — Man...Mr. President and liberals like this author — Many people in history have used the name of Jesus Christ to accomplish evil things for their own desires. But Jesus taught peace, love and forgiveness. He came to give His life for the sins of mankind, not to take life.” <br /><br /><br />“Muhammad on the contrary was a warrior and killed many innocent people. True followers of Christ emulate Christ — true followers of Muhammad emulate Muhammad."<br />- Billy Graham<br /><br />Spare us the moral equivalence, straw man arguments and call to be freinds with islamic radicals.Norioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14365840034867559366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-25363368095525123352015-02-06T11:27:31.039-05:002015-02-06T11:27:31.039-05:00"On Christian amnesia"
The instances men..."On Christian amnesia"<br />The instances mentioned are just that, instances. None of them are the result of a command from God to Christians to establish a God-ordained, all-encompassing theocracy to rule over all people's. Look to the history of Islam; it consists of violence, conquest and expansion.<br /><br />“Friendship isn’t always marked by agreement. It’s marked by honesty and exchange and trust.”<br />I don't understand this underlying drive-to-appeasement; Christ calls us not to "friendship" but to faith and obedience. Jesus himself spoke parables about those who would be turned away. Paul teaches that we should even avoid--not judge and condemn, mind you, but avoid--certain people. Is friendship more important than obedience?Bert Oleandernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-3971858920546116002015-02-06T10:52:05.348-05:002015-02-06T10:52:05.348-05:00The 10:02 AM comment is priceless. They should up...The 10:02 AM comment is priceless. They should up anonymous to call out others who are anonymous. They do not refute the facts, but call names "idiot". They request humility, but show none. And then propose to know "TRUE". The closer we get to the actual truth and facts, the more they will attack you. Brigitte Gabriel, Dr. Bill Warner, and Pamela Geller would have been better speakers on this matter. Maybe next time you can request their input as specialists on the matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-46289998997770046602015-02-06T10:33:01.131-05:002015-02-06T10:33:01.131-05:00I don't know any Christians ( true ones) who h...I don't know any Christians ( true ones) who hate Muslims. To the contrary - I know many who are actively involved in reaching them for Christ and providing for their physical needs. I know many who love them and are friends with them. Calling up the crusades is not relevant and divisive - as if a bad deed 1000 years ago suddenly explains current atrocity- how foolish and unwise. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-87624378466048139412015-02-06T10:27:13.902-05:002015-02-06T10:27:13.902-05:00I will let you have a bag of M and M s
You hav...I will let you have a bag of M and M s <br /><br />You have 100 of them in the bag to eat, only two or maybe one have poison.<br /><br />Enjoy. Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07977808657926308272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-70828397791429244932015-02-06T09:54:40.980-05:002015-02-06T09:54:40.980-05:00When did you last live in the Middle East? Becaus...When did you last live in the Middle East? Because Christians are being murdered just because they are not Muslim now, today. I assume you understand what caliphate and sharia law means and that you are a kafir.<br /><br />I will also assume that you know democracy and Western Civilization are democracies and republics made by elected people, while caliphate and sharia rules by theocracy. Perhaps it is time Western Civilization woke up before it is too late and we have to face what Europe will face, and Turkey has faced.<br /><br />Islam is more than a religion, it is a social and political structure that does not allow opposition. Of course, you knew that, so WHY are you obscuring facts? Shame on you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4725878808007834058.post-31857368015784865622015-02-06T09:46:04.406-05:002015-02-06T09:46:04.406-05:00I have to say it's very frightening that this ...I have to say it's very frightening that this "expert" and our own president would harken back to Christianity's dark days and try to make that comparison to what is going on today with Islamic terrorists. Most people have evolved, including Christians. Radical Islam is ingrained today into the minds of Muslim children. We are taken aback about the brutality. They grow up in a blood-thirsty society. They see public beheadings, dismemberments, hangings. This is the norm, something they see as justified in their teachings. We need to be brave enough to call it what it is and expect significant steps to wipe this off the globe, not just issue mere words.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com